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Clearing up all of the backlog, this issue has all of the responses to Behemoths controversial article on the commercial viability of the scene back in issue #114. Heretic has some info about a possible tune rip at the recent Party 6, and Our friend and compatriot Zinc drops us another Demotape Directory. Necros has released a new musicdisk, "system," and a new Impulse Tracker webring has come about. Sorry so short, but educational pursuits await my immediate attention. Enjoy the issue, and see you in a week or two! Gene Wie (Psibelius) TraxWeekly Publishing gwie@csusm.edu >-[Contents]------------------------------------------------------------------ ________ _________________________________________________________________ / ____/_/ __/ \ __/ / _____/ \ __/ __/ ___/_ < \____\ \ \\ \ \\____ __/ __/_\ \ \\____ \_____ \__ \ \ \ \\ \ \ww\ \\ \\ \ \ \ \ \_ _\________\________\\___\____\ \_____\\_______\\___\____\ \_____\_______\ Letters and Feedback 1. Letter from h0l 2. Letter from Owen 3. Letter from Eric Bell General Articles 4. Is The King a Tune Thief?.....................heretic 5. Demotape Directory............................zinc The Scene: Commercially Viable? 6. A few thoughts on the commercial market.......Harry Conner 7. The Business of Tracking......................Mark Bradley 8. Commercial Tracking...........................Maz 9. More on the Commercial Market.................n8 10. Tracking Semantics............................Exxon 11. Live Trackerization...........................zinc Advertisements " system " - the new necros musicdisk IT tracker webring Closing Distribution Subscription/Contribution Information TraxWeekly Staff Sheet >-[Letters and Feedback]------------------------------------------------------ --[1. Letter from h0l]-------------------------------------------------------- From kah30@pop.dial.pipex.com Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 23:11:04 +0000 From: kah30@pop.dial.pipex.com To: gwie@mailhost1.csusm.edu It's important for people not to forget their heritage. And sometimes, coming from an Amiga heritage, I worry about those who think Skaven and Purple Motion are the starting point of tracking. So I figured I could introduce classic MODs to people - which is how the "MODs In Memoriam" page on the RAW site started, if any of you saw that. In any case, there's now a new "MODs In Memoriam", hopefully updated weekly, with 3 classic tunes from way back when. There's one all-round classic MOD, one classic chip-tune, and one classic rare tune (rare in the sense that it's not on the MODs Anthology 4xCD for starters..) And for the first week, it's Dizzy with the classic, Nugget/Rebels with the classic chip, and Ukulele of Banal Projects with the classic rare one... wowee. :) The page is at http://st-00.thies.net :) Check it out, visit it regularly, give me feedback, and I'll be one happy bunny. :) h0l/mono (mono@scene.org) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --[2. Letter from Owen]------------------------------------------------------- From owen.chaim@utoronto.ca Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 19:21:55 -0500 From: owen.chaim@utoronto.ca To: Gene Wie Subject: Re: [TRAX-WEEKLY:143] TraxWeekly Issue #114 I just have a comment on commercial tracking. And would like some feedback, if possible. While tracking is a powerful tool to make music, the control over how your music sounds is limited. What I am specifically referring to is the inability to EQ instruments while in tracking programs. Until the coders for these programs somehow incorporate an EQ controls, tracking would be mostly limited to pre-production. Since you can only do so much with the programs that the programmers have given us, I can really only see that we'll have to re-create most of what we did in the tracker in the studio. Otherwise, you won't be able to customize your sound and master it properly. What do you think? Owen. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --[3. Letter from Eric Bell]-------------------------------------------------- From howling.dog@sympatico.ca Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 06:58:13 -0500 From: Eric Bell To: gwie@mailhost1.csusm.edu Subject: re: Behemoths 'Scene and the Commercial Market' I think Behemoth has described some truths about the scene, and these points are boths strengths and weaknesses of tracking. > I. Tracking was truly born and meant to be underground. I think it happened this way, but not because it was 'meant' to be underground. Live Tracker Bands? Forget it. Tracked music exists almost exclusively as a pre-recorded medium. But the kinds of tweaking that can be done to raw samples are really the heart of the MOD. I think its fascinating to observe that the scene features computer generated, freely transmittable music - the net and tracking go hand in hand because the music simply can't be played any other way than on a computer. And the net provides the perfect computer to computer distribution medium. Which brings me to another point - I listen to tracked music exclusively on my computer, except for the odd CD I've received. I wish it were more portable without my having to dump it to cassette or burn a CD-ROM. I'd love tracked music to be available as the soundtrack to many other activities than sitting in my office at home here. Wouldn't it be great if there were radio stations that played MODs? I suspect one day the net may be more freely available and such stations could exist there, but you need a pretty heavy wireless connection to go mobile with the receiver. In an upcoming issue of Music & Computers I briefly discuss PatroNet - Todd Rundgren's 'pay as you go' distribution system. The basic idea is that if you like an artist you can directly purchase their work. You can also 'subscribe' and have new stuff sent to you automatically. I've been wondering if the scene is ready to pay for good music in this way. Frankly, I suspect it isn't, and with its underground history, and the tradition of freely distributed music, I wonder if this would work with tracked music. Maybe if the mainstream public were into it... Check out www.patronet.com and www.tr-i.com Eric Bell MODPhiles (Music & Computers Mag) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >-[General Articles]---------------------------------------------------------- --[4. Is The King a Tune Thief?]-----------------------------------[Heretic]-- I got into the scene in around september '94 (with my 486dx2/66 *flying machine* :)) and have remained interested ever since, although my actual involvement has fluctuated a fair amount. When I first got into the scene, it was demos that fascinated me most, but soon after it was mods... an interest that has never diminished. I had a huge collection of 4 track mods, one of which was "Red Sector - Theme". It was one of my favourite tunes; I listened to it a lot. Apparently Red Sector was a cracker group on Amiga, according to a couple of reliable sources. In true style they had their little intros, which is presumably what the .mod "Red Sector Theme" was tracked for. Anyways; time and hdd crashes pass, and after playing an old Amiga game (Silkworm through UAE :)) I got that nostalgia thing going and felt like hearing the Red Sector theme once again. I lost the .zip long ago so I emailed a friend and he sent an ftp address back. I dl the mod and am listening happily enough when I open up the instruments - expecting to see the words "by 4mat" in them. Instead I get the surprise of seeing "Composed by The King"; and on further investigation I realised the mod had (ostensibly) been entered in The Party '96 : redsect.zip - redsecto.mod - Composed by : The King - Released : 12/26/96 - Songname in the instrument slots : "Red Section" - Songname displayed by mod4win : "Red Sector - Theme" - ftp.livewire.com.au/pub/aminet/mods/tp96/redsect.lha Which is strange, seeing as i remember it being much older and by someone else. My memory isn't *that* bad that I'd think I had a mod in '94 when it was actually released in '96... so, I was seriously suspicious. After searching for a while I located the original version. Sure enough, it's by 4mat : redsectr.zip - redsectr.mod - Composed by : 4mat - Released : 5th July 1990 - Songname displayed by mod4win : "Red Sector - Theme" - http://www.yezz.de/software/s30_2.htm (redsectr.zip) Now, maybe there's something I don't know about The King; but it certainly looks like a case of tune ripping to me. Laddie, you forgot about older sceners who remember the original! I'm surprised this got through The Party... I would have thought there'd be SOMEONE there who'd been around long enough to have run into the mod before. Anyway, there you go; the facts as I know them. It looks to me like someone really wanted to enter The Party but didn't have a good tune of their own... So they grabbed an old mod, changed the info in it and resaved it. Nice one. heretic s333617@student.uq.edu.au http://student.uq.edu.au/~s333617 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --[5. Demotape Directory]---------------------------------------------[Zinc]-- Wow! Another Demotape directory again? Didn't we just have one? Well, yes, we did, but there is already another update so I decided to put it in TraxWeekly right away. We now have nine listings, albeit the last one is not yet released. Please be warned! If you release songs without registering a copyright you are running the risk of being ripped off big-time! Simply writing (C) on it is not enough.. Please research the copyright laws in your area. I'll now be accepting listings for those of you who also happen to have bands and want to advertise your indie records. Also, I'll to an in depth review in this column for anyone who wants to send me a copy of their album. Contact me if interested and we can work something out. PSEUDO-DISCLAIMER: :) The following demo tape/cds are organized by artist, alphabetically. All dates are approximate. There may be surcharges for s&h fees, etc. I am not responsible for misinformation. Contact me to correct errors. DEMOTAPE DIRECTORY for NOVEMBER of 1997 (again!) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- molotov.bliss (B00MER) - Negative Youth CD - $13 US + SH Industrial/Techno September 1996 (re-updated October 1997) b00mer@kosmic.org OR boomer@iglobal.net http://oblique.kosmic.org -------------------------------------------------------------------------- molotov.bliss (B00MER) - anonymous.hate CD - $15 US + SH Industrial/Techno/Experimental October 1997 b00mer@kosmic.org OR boomer@iglobal.net http://oblique.kosmic.org Co-Produced by Stein. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- bibby - Subsequence - Seclusion Records CS - $5 includes SH Techno-Rock October 1996 bibby@juno.com Original .ITs unavailable on the internet. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Electric Keet - version one point zero beta CD - $15 or CS - $10 Everything. Classical to techno January 1997 tracerj@asis.com OR http://asis.com/~tracerj/ek.htm 18 tracks, five exclusive to CD. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- IQ and Maelcum - FTZ "Nothing Is True" CD - $8 US + S&H N/A 1995 maelcum@kosmic.org OR www.kosmic.org/areawww/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mental Floss - Grey Matter CS - $10 US mixed techno N/A andrewm@io.org OR www.io.org/~andrewm/greymatter -------------------------------------------------------------------------- PeriSoft & SupaMart - Live Inside Your Computer CS - $6 US Ambient/Trance/Techno July 1996 mwiernic@pinion.sl.pitt.edu OR supamart@servtechcom -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sublevel 3 - Submerged CD - $? Ambient, Techno, Trip-Hop N/A www.sublevel3.org -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subliminal - Mindscape *UPCOMING* CS - $(TBA) Various December 1, 1997 (tentative) sub@plazma.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------- All listings follow this format: Author/Title/[Label] Format/Price (CS = Cassette, CD = Compact Disc, S&H = Shipping Costs) Style(s) Used Release Date Contact (email/WWW) Other Think tracked music is commercially viable? Prove it! Support the scene! Suggestions and comments are welcome. Lemons are not. - zinc / rays@direct.ca ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --[6. A few thoughts on the Commercial Market]----------------[Harry Conner]-- IV. You cannot perform tracking live. While this may not sound entirely true, have you ever seen Prodigy perform? They look like a bunch of idiots. The reason is because it's all pre-sequenced, much in the same way tracked music is." Both computers and tracker programs are tools. The person behind the composition is the composer. With a tracked song the computer plays the instrument samples for you but there is no reason that all of the parts could not be written down and played by a group of players. Front242 plays live and people pay to go see them. Prodigy goes to show that people want to see this 'pre-sequenced' music performed. People go concerts to watch people perform. V. The music industry is really stupid about the way they handle talent, much the same as the movie industry. Nobody wants to take risks. Nobody wants to try something new. So if you've ever wondered why most music you buy on CD sounds like garbage, it's because of the lame-ass producers who can't stand to try anything out of the ordinary." The music industry is about one thing, money. If people will pay to buy CD's and go to shows, the Music Industry will find out how to market them. What is the definition of 'garbage' Modonna, Metallica, Front242 or Nine Inch Nails? Producers will take chances, but they aren't the ones picking the artists which will have media blitz behind them. It's the average music consumer that isn't willing to take chances. Being a musician, I have had to learn that music not an integral part of everyone's life. If a song is not on the radio station that they listen to, they've never heard it. To them an artist that has not put out a hit single in 2 years is forgotten. These people are the ones that only buy the music that is crammed down their throats. That's why I'm a tracker. Michaelangelo had to paint churches for a living. Harry Conner HarryC2022@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --[7. The Business of Tracking]-------------------------------[Mark Bradley]-- > By the way, I also wrote this article for another reason: > RESPONSES! Yes! I actually *want* you to respond to this! Prove me > wrong! Cite a few examples! > > There must be SOMEBODY out there who has done something as far as > commercially marketed tracked music...right? OK - you asked for it. Anyone who knows me through the scene - not many of you - would know that I am fairly heavily involved in the techno/club scene as well as radio here in Canberra, Australia. Through my work in this field I have met quite a few people who are into tracking. I cite two examples. The first is a local DJ who has teemed up with a friend of his to create some seriously top notch music. It is of a Dance / Techno style, and most definitely releasable in a commercial sense. They have been signed to one of Australia's biggest dance labels, with releases on CD and vinyl due out sometime soon, and having heard their music I can honestly say they should do quite well. I believe the soundcard being used is an AWE64 Gold, and the tracker is IT. You won't be hearing this music through the scene or the Net, for two reasons. First, the files are way too large to make FTP/DCC viable, due to the large samples. Second, this is something that was always imagined to be financially viable. While this duo share a love of the music, releasing the product for free would seriously jeopardize future sales, especially when the source samples and sequencing are free for anyone to copy and rip off. The second example is a group of enterprising lads from Newcastle, Australia, who set about using protracker on their Amiga's to make some seriously hard and noisy industrial gabba music. The infamous group are Nasenbluten, who apparently are quite popular in some European hardcore scenes. Along with their buds under Bloody Fist Records, they use trackers to make music on which they do receive some form of financial return. I happened to see Nasenbluten appear "live" when they played a gig here in Canberra a couple of years back. Their live act was one guy operating the Amigas, connected to a cross-fading mixer, while DJ Mark N - one of this country's foremost masters of vinyl scratching - cut up and scratched samples over the top. The Amigas appeared to be used only to play tracks pre-written. Perhaps no more live than a DJ with a crate full of records, but it still had the crowd rocking. I have tried doing a live show, featuring Gabba (back when I was a hardcore kiddie) and hardcore music. My knowledge of tracking was only limited, and my preparation less than adequate, and so the gig was nothing other than playing tracked choons. I plan to do it again though, using many pre-recorded patterns which I can load up, along with a complex system to organise my samples, and some quick use of channel cut outs etc... It won't be completely live, but close. And I think I heard somehwere that Quicksilver's Belissima was written on a tracker - can't substantiate this though... Don't lose hope... Mark Bradley m.bradley@student.canberra.edu.au ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --[8. Commercial Tracking]---------------------------------------------[Maz]-- > One guy even raised his hand and asked me how a computer was able to > sound "not like a computer." This guy's last contact with a computer was 10 years ago I assume, when BEEP BEEEEP was the only music which came out of this boring box with a green monitor... > This brought up something that I had never really considered before: > The main reason why tracking is not and will not be a commercially- > viable tool Disagree. > (in the forseeable future, anyways) is because > of five major reasons: > >I. Tracking was truly born and meant to be underground. When the first track > was written way back on the C64 by some unknown, chances were that person > didn't spread it around too much or tried to sell it. That's pretty much > the entire POINT of the Scene: A place where artists can be free to > distribute their work and get exposure with people who can truly > appreciate it. We don't track, code, or make gfx for money! This may be valid for you, I know enough dudes who sell CD's made of tracked tunes (of course a bit mastered afterwards). And they like making music with a tracker even if some money comes in and they are not "sceners" anymore because they are *uuuahh* commercial. > We do it because we LIKE to do it. > We do it because we don't have to worry about > some idiot telling us to rework it to their specifications! Do you think Prodigy cared about that when they released their first album? I'm sure they made 100% their OWN music, no idiot who told them how to do it or how to rework it. > We do it for one main reason: it's FUN. What's so bad getting money for something which is fun? In fact this is the best thing I can imagine! > Oh admit it, it is! The Scene is revolutionary Revolutionary means to go new ways. I'm not sure if the tracker scene or the demo coder scene is still revolutionary nowadays (the old theme "why do you ignore 3D-cards but never cared about ignoring hardware support in the sound area (GUS) ..."). Yeah, I know, because they don't care about those "idiots telling us to rework it to their specifications". Maybe those "idiots" aren't that idiotic ... (my point of view: every 30$ game beats the very most demo's in design and gfx nowadays ... sad sad) Revolutionary? I found "2nd Reality" revolutionary 1993. I found FastTracker2 with it's 16 bit sample support and envelopes revolutionary in 1995, IT with it's NNA's 1996, MOD4WIN in 1996 with it's native GUS support even under WinNT and without Gravis drivers(!) ... but well, the "outside" world hasn't sleeped too. There are really revolutionary things like ReBirth, DirectX plugins with realtime time stretching incl. formant correction, there are wavetable cards with sample RAM which make MIDI sequencers act like a tracker (incl. much more comfort, realtime effects, filters) ... And btw, "revolutionary" tends to sound like "elitary". > because never before have we been able to share our work with so many > others, and so quickly as with the BBS, then IRC, then FTP, then WWW. Or > maybe it's the other way around... But well, what's so special about that? The whole world uses internet, even Bill Gates (without JAVA *of course* ;) ). Not the tracking scene is revolutionary, the internet times are! :) > II. Tracking software is DOS-based This is not a must, fortunately :) > and is not very easy to use. It's also not very easy to use a hardware sampler or a MIDI sequencer. > While you and I may be able to track, most people (speaking in the > commercial market, remember) don't know what panning is, What kind of people from the commercial market do you mean? I think every MIDI and sampler/synth dude knows what panning is. > what timing is, what key signatures and chord progressions are, or what > a melody and harmony are. Again, what kind of people do you compare here? Trackers with not-at-all-musicians? > This is why you won't see tracking software on store shelves, at least > for now. OK, THIS is revolutionary. The store shelves are the WWW-sites of the autors :) With the result that after one or two years the authors usually don't have time nor motivation to further develop their tracker ... because they need money to live (no, I don't introduce "what is the sense of live" ..) but got no money for their work. > IV. You cannot perform tracking live. While this may not sound entirely You never saw a performance where dudes hacked their patterns live while playing other patterns? :) A nice ST3 feature :) > have you ever seen Prodigy perform? Btw, don't you think you could make every single Prodigy song with a tracker? > They look like a bunch of idiots. The reason is because it's all pre- > sequenced, much in the same way tracked music is. All they can do is > parade on the stage while Liam Howlett mans the synths in the rear. To > accomodate for the lack of doing anything that resembles playing music, > Prodigy had to drag a guitarist on stage who really serves no purpose. If > you think about it, we as trackers would have even more difficulty playing > live, since all it would look like is someone sitting on stage with a > computer, hitting "Play Song" (or F5 in Impulse Tracker) and 5 minutes > later, stopping the song. How exciting. And why the hell do you think Depeche Mode made great (imho) live concerts whith their 100% presequenced computer/synth songs? What would be the difference to a tracked song? Why can't you "redesign" your song and play some instruments live while the rest is playback? No techno band would be able to perform live then! Of COURSE they must do some more than pressing PLAY and STOP in cubase. That's the *sense* of a live concert. > We can produce better music than most of the crap that lines the shelves Definitely! > of most CD stores, but how can one possibly expect to market a tracker? Have you ever seen DATA BECKER MUSIC MAKER or crap like this? In the stores! You *will* find OctaMed PC in the stores btw :) > There sure wouldn't ever be concerts or tours. There are commercial bands who don't perform live. And if you want to, it's possible, look above. >V. The music industry is really stupid about the way they handle talent, > much the same as the movie industry. Nobody wants to take risks. Nobody > wants to try something new. So if you've ever wondered why most music you > buy on CD sounds like garbage, Just download the 100 newest uploads to cdrom.com, listen to them and compare the %-number of crap :) Well, if I buy a CD it usually doesn't sound like garbage :) >So in conclusion, if you were wondering why tracking still hasn't caught on >after being in existance for more than a decade, maybe this helped shed some >light on the subject. Imho one of the main reasons is, that nobody is able to earn money with trackers and news about the scene. No mag, no hardware manufacturer. OK, GRAVIS wouldn't exist without trackers and the demo scene probably. Hmm, now even Gravis closed their soundcard devision ... who cares :) Another big reason is, that dudes always say tracked songs can't be commercial. And other dudes read this ... Tracking ruulez, tracking is fun, tracking is therapy. Good tracked songs may be professional, may be "commercial" and may be sold. Don't think you are cool or "revolutionary" or "indy" just because you never tried to sell (hey, you don't sell your soul!) some of your work. In fact this is what you *HAVE* to do (sell your work, not only music) if you don't want to starve the moment your parents stop blowing sugar into your ass, so why not choose things you love to do? You got your response :) Bye, MAZ maz@fh-zwickau.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --[9. More on the Commercial Market]------------------------------------[n8]-- This is a response to Behemoths article on "The Scene and the Commercial Market" > ...there must be SOMEBODY out there who has done > something as far as commercially marketed tracked music...right? Well it may not be commercially marketed tracked music but it is a live performance. In the same way that records are used as tools by DJ's to produce a continuously mixed and unique sound at raves and some clubs, tracked music can also be used. I have begun to mix modules in real time with two PC's, each running Cubic Player and mixing them together with a Gemini mixer. While there are many things that you can do with wax that cannot be done with a PC, the creative possibilities of mixing tracked music are greater and will continue to grow. The art of creating a stream of sound from a set of Technic turntables seems to be reaching its limits. So I am wondering if there is anyone else that gets their kicks out of staying up all night in their room making mixed tapes of tracked music, or setting up continuos massive beats at small parties with a couple hundred close friends. This is not really a true commercial application of tracked music but if people are paying money to get into a place to hear you perform then it has some commercial aspects. (Although I must admit that it is so much more fun when the party is free and everyone just wants to have a good time.... much closer to the ideal.) "Spinning" tracked music is really the only way I can think of to perform it live. Matching beats is a lot of work, and takes some skill. It really looks like your doing something when you have one hand on the headphones and mixer and the other controlling the pitch via F11 and F12 and finding the right pattern with the Ctrl and arrow keys, and making it sound right. Plus you can interact with the crowd just like a DJ spinning records. I don't know if this will ever be an accepted means of creating sound in the dance culture, but I do see the possibility. It would be cool to see Cubic Player with network support to synchronize beats, and with the ability to loop a pattern (why can't Cubic do this, it does like everything else?) It will also be a lot better when I can afford two laptops, and since I don't have to spend ten bucks every time I want to get a new song, I might get there sooner than the average DJ. There are plenty of the hard deep trancey house mods that I love just waiting to be clicked upon. -n8 n8@beloved.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --[10. Tracking Semantics]-------------------------------------------[Exxon]-- This is a response to Behemoth's article in the last TW... >II. Tracking software is DOS-based and is not very easy to use. Very true indeed, it is complicated to learn, but once you 've got the principles, tracking is a much quicker way to express spontanous musical ideas than professional samplers, where you get mad scrolling through menus with 3 buttons on a 2 line display. The only real disadvantage at the moment is that sound especially bass still hasn't got exactly that much power from trackers than from synths or samplers and the little bit of noise still left (although I've heard AWE or EWS manage noisereduction near to perfection...) And yeah, I'm very happy about tracking being one of the few sectors, which hasn't followed BillieBoy into Win95Land. >IV. You cannot perform tracking live. Well, when one day this summer a drum'n'bass DJ, to whom I had played my demotape, asked me, if I could perform that stuff live, I also had to say, "Not really..", but since August 21st, this thing has changed. With FT2.08 I'm able to play samples as well as synth sounds from my daughterboard LIVE using an input keyboard, and damn, the last days of August where one huge jam session for me, having a junglebeat running in the tracker and playing various melodies along :)) This point is no problem with a little of equipment (I know this may sound silly to someone who can't afford it..). >V. The music industry is really stupid about the way they handle talent, The only thing to say here is f--- the majorlabel music industry_, the best thing to do is to look around for indie record companies specialized on the kind of music you do, and if you don't find any of them in a diameter of 500 miles and you really want to release records, found your own label! Another really good possibility to get attention from the real life music scene is to take part in real life music competitions, if you're good enough, you'll make your way there (trust me on this, I just made first place in a electronic music compo here in Austria with a 10-track XM, winning a trip to Las Vegas :))) Yeah, and send or play demotapes to everyone available to get as much feedback as possible, because there really is so many people in the scene, who really should be putting out records!!! PS: No, I haven't forgot about that TraxRadio thing, we're already running test broadcasts here in Vienna, so watch out for www.traxradio.org somewhen in November/December!!! .-=======ExxoN=======-. '-=exxon@bigfoot.com=-' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --[11. Live Trackerization]-------------------------------------------[Zinc]-- A quick comment on Behemoth's article: > You cannot perform tracking live. While this may not sound entirely true, > have you ever seen Prodigy perform? They look like a bunch of idiots. The > reason is because it's all pre-sequenced, much in the same way tracked > music is. All they can do is parade on the stage while Liam Howlett mans > the synths in the rear. To accomodate for the lack of doing anything that > really serves no purpose. If you think about it, we as trackers would > have even more difficulty playing live, since all it would look like is > someone sitting on stage with a computer, hitting "Play Song" (or F5 in > Impulse Tracker) and 5 minutes later, stopping the song. How exciting. We > can produce better music than most of the crap that lines the shelves of > most CD stores, but how can one possibly expect to market a tracker? > There sure wouldn't ever be concerts or tours. This is not entirely true. Yes, a tracker program alone wouldn't do much, but you CAN use a tracker for live performances simply by integrating the tracker with other kit such as keyboards. I use my keyboard along with a tracked song for live performances, and the addition of other people using gear like drum kits or other synths can add a great deal to the sound. Of course, this method is only very useful for rave, ambient, or other electronic music. Anyways, playing live in this fashion is every bit as exciting IMHO as standing before a crowd swingin' guitars an' hollerin' or bangin' yer drums til the cows come home. Yee-haw! A couple of tips for 'live' tracked music: 1. With 255 orders, you can run out of time quickly, so instead of repeating patterns in the order list, use your SBx commands to repeat WITHIN the pattern. 2. Use the highest quality samples possible, because when it's being played at a billion decibels, you can easily notice bad quality sounds. 3. You can use the SHIFT-F7 command in IT to extend the length of a song if the crowd is really getting into it. 4. Make good use of your 'Q' or 'S' keys on the playscreen in Impulse Tracker. They're used to to mute or solo channels. With practice, this is a really handy tool for live performance (and really the only on-the-fly thing you can do within the tracker) my $0.02 - zinc rays@direct.ca ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >-[Advertisements]------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ " system " a new musicdisk by necros / fm 11 november 1997 6 new songs, IT2.14 format, 3.2 MB ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/demos/incoming/music/disks/system.zip ftp://ftp.arosnet.se/demos/musicdisks/system.zip ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ~~~ New WebRing for Impulse Trackers ~~~ Announcing the New Impulse Tracker's Webring, which is open to anyone who has an IT webpage, or trax using 'IT'. Anything Related to 'IT' is welcome to become a member. Interested? 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